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Jul 22, 2011 8:00pm EDT
for a big deficit reduction and debt reduction package. we were offering a deal that caused for as much discretionary savings as the gang of six. we were calling for taxes that were less than what the gang of six had proposed. and we had -- we were calling for modifications to entitlement programs. this was an extraordinarily fair deal. if it was unbalanced, it was unbalanced in the direction of not enough revenue. nancy pelosi, harry reid, the democratic leadership, they sure did not like the plan that we were proposing to boehnor, but they were at least willing to engage in a conversation because they understood how important it is for us to actually solve this problem. and so far, i have not seen the capacity of the house republicans in particular to make those tough decisions. what a lot of the american people are so disappointed by is this sense that all the talk about responsibility, all the talk about the next generation, all the talk about making sacrifices, that when it comes to actually doing something difficult, folks walk away. here's what we're going to do. we have now run
MSNBC
Jul 11, 2011 4:00pm EDT
much progress towards getting a deal done. so we'll have to see if anything big came out of this meeting. what we can tell you is the backdrop is dwindling hope for getting a big deal done. as you said, president obama was pushing for a big deal, especially at the end of last week. somewhere in the neighborhood of $4 trillion in deficit reductions over the next ten year. it looked like at the end of last week, at least, speaker boehner was trying to get on that same page. it would have involved coming to the table over entitlement reforms, ib vochled republicans coming to the table over rolling back tax credits for wealthy americans and big corporation, but then over the weekend, speaker bain boehner wouldn't be able to support a big deal. they are discussing as you said a deal half the size. somewhere in the neighborhood of $2 trillion to $3 trillion in cuts. we expect eric cantor to have come to this meeting with their proposal. we expect that's what they were discussing during this meeting. we'll let you know exactly what happened once we find out. the president earlie
MSNBC
Jul 12, 2011 6:00am EDT
14% in taxes and corporations pay 0%, and you raise more, you can have us a big deal here. >> they're still drawing lines in the sand that seem insurmountable with weeks to go before the august 2 deadline, congressional leaders are heading back to the white house today for yet another meeting to reach a deal on raising the country's debt ceiling. officials familiar with the negotiations say majority leader eric cantor dominated yesterday's meeting. cantor laid out what was agreed upon in the deficit reduction talks led by vice president biden, specifically $2 trillion in cuts in the next decade. the figure includes $1 trillion in discretionary spending. $200 billion in medicare and medicaid. and $200 billion to $300 billion on saved interest in the debt. >> so the military -- the military, i guess, comes in in the mandatory discretionary spending. >> military. >> sources familiar with the talks add that after the presentation president obama said the two sides might be able to reach consensus on roughly $1 pp 7 trillion. but there are still some issues to resolve. at one point in t
MSNBC
Jul 14, 2011 1:00pm EDT
as well. so we need to do something big. >>> plus, decline of an empire? murdoch makes the cover of "time." the uk makes another arrest. and u.s. lawmakers demand investigations into news corp's actions here at home. >>> strikeout. why did the judge just declare a mistrial in the roger clemens' perjury case? >>> good day. i'm andrea mitchell live in washington. it's round five of the debt talks today. coming off the most heated exchange yet in the debt negotiations between president obama and republican leaders. eric cantor says the president all but stormed out of the last meeting. democrats have a different story. their version is that in fact, it was the republicans' fault. major garrett is congressional correspondent. here we are unveiling the cover as we do every week of the "national journal." let's talk about these negotiations. we've got he said/he said, basically. you have two sides accusing each other of storming out. it clearly got a little bit testy. >> it got testy -- >> we're told cantor interrupted the president several times. >> eric cantor was persistent, i'm sure. eric c
MSNBC
Jul 26, 2011 5:00pm EDT
hike. >> i disagree with that. >> you're still fighting that fight? >> look, the big grand bargain is still on the table. that deal is there if the speaker wants to return to the table and negotiate it. we came very close. the president and the speaker did. and that opportunity still exists. secondly, the helpful proposal senator reid put out does not include up front the tough issues of entitlement reform or tax reform, it creates a committee that would look at those issues on a fast-track basis by the end of the year. that's not possible, we prefer one that does it all at once. however this turns out if we don't get the tough issues addressed because they're essential to address the deficits and long-term debt we're going to return to the debate. the public support balanced approach. it's not the right way to do this if we don't ask sacrifice from everybody. not one sctd sector 0 a limited number of sectors from the society. >> last night it was said, voice support for a bipartisan deal. let's listen. >> the american people may have voted for divided government, but they didn't v
MSNBC
Jul 7, 2011 12:00am EDT
. they decided to stay in d.c., instead, to have a big fight in washington about what we are going to prioritize in this country, what we are going to spend money on and not going to spend money on. the president said yesterday the fight about the debt ceiling is not going to be some short-term stop-gap measure to tie the fight over to another day. the president said he wants to have the fight now. we are coming out of the great recession, but still tough times economically. given that, how should we be allocating our resources as a country? the republican stance in this big argument, the republican position is that they will not allow taxes to go up one penny, even if democrats only want to raise taxes on the richest people in the country. >> a tax hike cannot pass the u.s. house of representatives. it's not just a bad idea, it doesn't have the votes, and it can't happen. the american people don't want us to raise taxes. >> american people do not want us to raise taxes, makes for a nice, tidy, talking point in this fight. it does not, however, appear to be a true talking point. most recent poll
MSNBC
Jul 20, 2011 9:00pm EDT
of the substance of the proposal, it's too big. there is no time to get something this big done before the august 2 deadline. it literally cannot be passed through the senate in time even if everybody likes it. the other rainbow/sunshine problem here is the president and the senate agreeing on this or anything doesn't get you further towards raising the debt ceiling, it's not just the president and the senate, it's crazy town down the hallway too, it's john boehner's republican house, that likes the idea of the nation defaulting, that thinks the explosion of the economy might be pretty or at least warm for a second. they are not looking for a good deal or achieve particular policy objectives, regardless of what they get, they are not going to vote to raise the debt ceiling. the republicans who are running for president from the house of representatives, for example, are not saying don't raise the debt ceiling unless, don't raise the debt ceiling until, they are saying don't raise the debt ceiling at all. let's see what happens. this is how republican congresswoman michele bachmann's first president
MSNBC
Jul 14, 2011 11:00pm EDT
big push for the big cuts republicans say they want. if they turn their back on those big cuts, the president is in the strongest position to say they are not living up to their rhetoric. let alone their principles. >> and there is no chance of them accepting any kind of big deal at all because the president is insisting that there be tax revenue increases in there. so the president knows that he is pushing something that they absolutely cannot agree to. so at this point, what the president does seem to be doing is what you just said, is making his position appear to be the one who wants to do the big move on deficit reduction and forcing these republicans to back away from big deficit reduction, thereby, he hopes, neutralizing deficit reduction as an issue against him in the presidential campaign. >> well, look. he's talked about deficit reduction all the way through. but remember, it's not just his position here. it's two thirds of the american public. we have a slew of polls here saying that two thirds of the american people want to see some combination of taxes and spending
MSNBC
Jul 8, 2011 7:00pm EDT
because of the economy being so precarious. does that mean we're going to have to push the big changes to deal with the deficit and debt, going to have to go down the road a bit and to the long term, maybe more than ten years? >> chris, i don't know about more than ten years, but certainly as you know, simpson bowles, senator simpson and former chief of staff erskine bowles, in their report they proposed making substantial cuts, raising revenues and across the board with all items of expansion. but they said in the near term, meaning the next year of so, we need to be very careful that we did not have the opposite effect by dampening down the struggling economy, obviously, as we saw today, which will decrease revenues and make the problem worse, not better. so in the short term, i agree with the bowles/simpson suggestion that we be very careful in the short term. there's no doubt, however, in the white house yesterday, or thursday -- yesterday -- there was a clear agreement that this was a serious, serious challenge that confronted us and it demanded at all of us try to come together a
MSNBC
Jul 22, 2011 6:00am EDT
have a big jump in revenue. obama has been saying let's thai the bush tax cuts are going to lapse and we are going to extend the ones for the middle class. republicans are afraid to let him do that up front. it would kill momentum for a tax reform. >> but, but, but why just get rid of the bush tax cuts. if they are so awful, why not get rid of all of them. get rid of all of them for everybody. if tax cuts are the worst thing ever, the bush tax cuts, get rid of the bush tax cuts for everybody and raise billions in revenue. >> right. i think we could probably figure it out sitting around the table. i don't think it's that difficult. they are locked in in political terms. it's a much different issue to them. you can make rational compromises and deals here. the problem is, how do they do it. what's happening is they are at the point where they realize the consequences. at some point, they realize they have to do something other than hold the ground saying this is it. we're not going to change anything. we are at that point and we have little time to work with. >> howard dean, look wh
MSNBC
Jul 7, 2011 4:00pm EDT
>>> the big story today, money talks. i'm matt milner for dylan ratigan. you'll be shocked. no magic the fix out of today's bipartisan sitdown at the white house. more agreeing to disagree for now. >> nothing is agreed to until everything is agreed to and the parties still far apart on a wide range of issues. everybody acknowledged that there's going to be pain involved politically on all sides. >> still, the president hinting at subtle signs of progress. now pushing to double the size of proposed spending cuts to $4 trillion over ten years. democrat and republican leaders will work through the weekend and meet with president obama again on sunday. areas of potential xpra mize, closing loopholes in the tax code if it doesn't sound like a tax code and changing yearly adjustments for social security. yes, social security is back on the table. though the white house says their only goal, "strengthen the program." keep in mind the august 2nd august debt ceiling deadline is less than four weeks away. mike viqueira is live on the lawn of the white house. what if anything was acco
MSNBC
Jul 12, 2011 7:00pm EDT
tough choices for a big budget deal. today he said without a deal there may not be enough money to send out social security checks. for many republicans in congress, opposing tax has become more than ideology. it's become religion. they're abdicating now their responsibility to co-govern. how are we ever going to get a deal if republican leaders more afraid of the tea party than they are of the economic collapse to come? >>> also, pray away the gay. michele bachmann's husband says the christian counseling practice he runs does not try to pray gay straight, but the video tells a different story. this may make michele bachmann more popular with her base, but what after everyone else? >>> plus, the murdoch scandal keeps getting bigger and bigger. gordon brown told the bbc that murdoch people used known criminals to get access to his personal information and try to bring down his government. the story has now hit the "sunday times" of london and his company stock is sinking. how bad will this get? jon stewart and british ex-pass had fun, a lot of fun, actually, with the murdoch story. that'
MSNBC
Jul 13, 2011 11:00pm EDT
,000 donors. >> willing to go big here. >> a shock and awe report. >> what a juggernaut this was for the president. >> mr. mcconnell said the day i was elected president, to see me beat. >> now i'm not the only one who knows the president is winning. >> republicans don't have a chance. >> mr. mcconnell who waves the white flag. >> mcconnell squawks, boehner balks, and cantor woes. >> trying to win the spin game. >> the senator republican leader says hey, i got this other nifty back-up plan. >> this is a complete betrayal of the tea party. >> let's be in a position to blame president obama. >> mitch mcconnell trying to become senator majority leader. >> tea party republicans are not exactly on the same page. >> inmates are truly running this asylum. >> we cannot go on scaring the american people. >> piece of legislation. >> this is a misnomer. >> as i fumble for the acronym, it guarantees to keep the promise. >> continue to be challenged by pledges they just can't keep. >> there's something out there called the marriage vow. >> michele bachmann, who attempted to explain w
MSNBC
Jul 5, 2011 6:00am EDT
are loop hoeholing loopholings. >> shouldn't they hold firm, democrats, on this. >> this is a big step forward for john cornyn, one of the big leaders in the -- a leader in the republican senate campaign committee to suggest they're open to the idea if not in the intermediate term closing loopholes is an important first step. it suggests that you can win some of your concessions you want here. if you're going to take drastic steps to reform medicare and medicaid and social security, which i agree we should, you should also hold firm to say that some are going to have their taxes changed. if the middle class and the people below the middle class are going to make sacrifices, and all americans should. people on the upper oechend sho as well. hopefully they'll agree to a corporate tax cut and hopefully doing something incentivize businesses hiring going forward. >> we got some great segment ms ahead. and must reads. the tax issue hurts it economy to deal with this a little bit and get what the democrats want on this. i don't think it does. >> i want patrick to explain this. he never quite
MSNBC
Jul 6, 2011 6:00am EDT
a lot to talk about. big news over the budget and deficit reduction. president obama is rejecting calls for a short-term hike. he made a rare appearance in the press room. he's challenging them to seize the moment and cut a deal. >> i don't think the american people here sent us here to avoid tough problems. it's, in fact, what drives them nuts about washington. when both parties simply take the path of least resistance. i don't want to do that here. i believe right now, we have a unique opportunity to do something big. to tackle our deficit in a way that forces our government to live within our means. still allows us to invest in that future. >> all right. sounds good. sounds hopeful, it does. maybe something will get done, like everyone is going to come in. less than an hour after the president's invitation, john boehner missed the discussions saying a deal won't pass in the house, if it includes tax increases. he said, i'm happy to discuss the issues at the white house, but the discussions are fruitless until the president recognizes economic and legislative reality. >> that doesn't
MSNBC
Jul 11, 2011 5:00pm EDT
the heat from the right. he still wants the big deal that would include perhaps cuts in medicare, medicaid and even social security, and with them tax increases. john boehner responded quickly. no to any tax increases, period. well, my question tonight, do republicans want to deal with really tanking the economy to say no to taxes? the face of the deadlock. the president said both sides have people who refuse to compromise. tonight one from each camp. democrat and tea party republican. i'll ask them what price they'll will be to see the country pay so they can stick to their positions. >>> also, not so excellent adventure. both michele bachmann and rick santorum signed a so-called marriage vow from a conservative group that suggested african-americans had a better family life under slavery. who writes this stuff? and worse yet who would sign on to such stuff? by the way, bachmann leads the pack in a new iowa poll, and a scandal keeps getting bigger. a report the tabloid targeted former prime minister gordon brown's voicemail and bank account. how far will this scandal go? and let me finish
MSNBC
Jul 19, 2011 7:00pm EDT
this thing? this big cut, cap and balance has nothing in it. i had a hunch it wouldn't be in there. i did something that nobody is doing in your house, in the republican side, reading it. there are no cuts here. where are the cuts? >> senator coburj introduced a plan -- >> it's not the coburn plan. it's the bumper sticker. >> the house has a plan. >> why do you keep saying this? >> chris, chris -- >> have you read it? >> no, i haven't read it. >> how do you know there's something in there -- i'm reading it right now and -- >> at least you're holding on to something. this is the president's plan. it's vapor, there is no plan, because there's no leadership. >> todd, the president's plan outlines $4 trillion in cuts over the -- >> there is no plan. >> that was a hostage video, and he is being held hostage by the tea party republicans. >>> let's go to the outlet pass as they say in football. president clinton has weighed in. he writes, quote, clinton says he would invoke the so-called constitutional option to raise the nation's debt ceiling, quote, without hesitation and force the courts to s
MSNBC
Jul 25, 2011 6:00am EDT
is it shows that the united states system is not set up to do big things. when a crisis like this comes up they cannot do a deal that would show stability to the world. >> ronald reagan and tip o'neal made big deals. in the 1990s, bill clinton and the republican congress made big deals. and mika, it's not over yet, but it has gotten to the point already that this is damaging the reputation of the united states the longer it goes, and i think we're talking about it damaging our reputation more every day that the crisis goes on. >> i think both sides would agree with that. after a weekend of meetings resulting in yet another impasse, president obama is canceling two fundraisers today to continue negotiations. senate majority leader harry reid said the talks broke down last night because of the republicans insistence on a short-term deal, and their plan would cut $2.7 trillion over the next ten years. officials say it raises the debt ceiling but no tax increases. and he salaid out his latest solution. >> there will be a two-stage possible. it's not physically possible to do this in one step.
MSNBC
Jul 26, 2011 6:00am EDT
the battle on a short term debt ceiling because we can't put together a big one in one week's time. and you noticed the president had no statement in there, "i will veto a short-term debt ceiling." what happened to that? >> he didn't have that. i was wondering if you would allow if you ear in the president's position or advisor, you advised many presidents before. would you not tell him to stand up to his opponents? >> i would not tell the president of the united states to veto a short term debt ceiling. if, as a result, i'm going to throw my country into default over what? the president is willing to accept a clean debt ceiling with nothing. now boehner is going to give a debt ceiling with $1 trillion in cuts. why would he reject the good because it's not the best? >> my advice -- i think, pat, we've had this discussion on the show. pat and i sparred a bit in the last two weeks. i think pat, unfortunately, for the democrats standpoint is right. i don't mean you're right. you're more right this morning than wrong. if the president has to accept a short term plan which is looking more and mo
MSNBC
Jul 5, 2011 8:00pm EDT
, they are worried about their candidates. >> we will stand, because we serve a faithful god. >> i think it's a big mistake for governor romney. >> there's a move afoot to try to blame george w. bush. >> to make an informed decision and then come back to talk to us. >> good evening from washington. two week's notice, that's what president obama gave congressional republicans late today, two weeks to reach an agreement on deficit reduction and raising the debt ceiling to avoid what would likely be a catastrophic default. the president said he won't accept a short-term deal and invited republican leaders to join his previously-scheduled meeting with democrats on thursday. he restated this is an opportunity to "do something big to reduce the debt." >> to get there, i believe we need a balanced approach. we need to take on spending in domestic programs, in defense programs, in entitlement programs, and we need to take on spending in the tax code. spending on certain tax breaks and deductions for the wealthiest of americans. this will require both parties to get out of our comfort zones, and both partie
MSNBC
Jul 6, 2011 12:00am EDT
decided based on reviewing their own safety record that actually high water was no big deal for this pipeline, they can handle it. what's believed to have caused this oil spill? high waters in recent weeks that may have exposed the pipeline to debris. exxon mobile, reviewing its own safety record to make that decision is important here because it calls to mind exxon mobile's safety record. july of last year, officials notified exxon the pipeline was against violations of the law. they were in apparent violation of emergency response training, rules governing the potential corrosion of pipe, and having out of dates maps and records of the pipeline. exxon records included valves on the pipeline that no longer existed. exxon says they still haven't seen the pipe that caused the mess in the first place. exxon saying "we are very curious about what may have happened at the bottom of the river." they have to be curious about it because they still haven't seen it. again, exxon mobile is one of the most-profitable companies on planet earth. exxon is one of the most-profitable compan
MSNBC
Jul 8, 2011 9:00pm EDT
. the one entity that could cut them out are heading towards cuts of their own, big ones. this, which we thank local and state government for, that's what republicans are insisting be brought now to washington. >> i think the situation we face is pretty urgent. as a matter of fact, i would describe it as dire. we have three really big problems, we have a spending problem, we have a debt problem, and we have a jobs problem. >> that's why i believe he went on to say it is important for us to fundamentally fix our spending problem and our debt problem and help get our economy moving again. so three problems, spending problem, he says we should fix that. debt problem, he says we should fix that. jobs problem, yeah, we sure have one of those. why doesn't he say we should fix that one too? john boehner said he's ready to fix spending and the debt but those two will just magically fix the jobs thing too? that doesn't need fixing on its own, it fixes itself? so far, anyway, that magic is not working out so great, president obama plans to meet with republican lawmakers again this weekend on sunda
MSNBC
Jul 22, 2011 12:00am EDT
is the big bad government is a threat to us. the consumer protection bureau as most americans understand is the government protecting them from abuse by private financial institutions. and they are terrified that the public will see that there is value to a public institution that can prevent them from being abused by private institutions because it undercuts the whole rationale that the government is always bad, always a problem. and that's why we are fighting so hard for it. >> congressman barney frank, democrat of massachusetts, ranking democrat on the financial committee. thank you for your time tonight. >>> texas governor, and gonna run for president guy, rick perry made a very surprising decision today that is going to upset some of his most ardent supporters. i'll tell you about it with a smile when i come back. k of pos. in here, the planned combination of at&t and t-mobile would deliver our next generation mobile broadband experience to 55 million more americans, many in small towns and rural communities, giving them a new choice. we'll deliver better service, with thousands of
MSNBC
Jul 28, 2011 9:00pm EDT
different checks. for everything from big ticket items like social security, veterans benefits, and nondefense contracts, to smaller payouts, to folks who are, for example, victims of black lung disease, or people who are railroad retirement board pensioneers. it's 80 million checks every single month. and, again, only about half the money they'll need to make good on all of those payments. so what does treasury do? who gets paid? who doesn't? the bipartisan policy center has laid out a possible scenario in which the treasury department only pays the following bills in august. interest on our debts, social security benefits, medicare and medicaid, defense contracts, and unemployment benefits. just paying those bills, just those, not everything we owe, just those, brings us to about $172 billion. which if you'll remember is all the money that they will have on hand. if only those programs get paid, here, my friends, is what doesn't get paid. military pay for active duty soldiers, veterans affairs programs, salary and benefit for federal employees, department of education, food s
MSNBC
Jul 8, 2011 12:00am EDT
us. we have a congressman here to talk about the democrats and their negotiating position in the big debt ceiling fight in washington. whether or not the white house really just put social security and medicare on the table for cuts. that is all ahead. but we start tonight with a dramatic development in a life or death issue. it is literally about life and death. about the power of the government to kill people it is holding prisoner. but it's also about presidential politics, and who will be the republican party's nominee for president this year. there are two unquestionable truisms in coverage of republican presidential politics right now. one is that the prohibitive favorite to get the republican party's nomination, the front-runner so far out in front it is almost impossible to imagine anyone catching him is mitt romney. mitt romney seen here at the romney fundraiser today in london, england, of all places. mr. romney leads in all scientific international polls at this point, in all iowa polls, new hampshire polls, and in fundraiser. he is the front-runner and is front running al
MSNBC
Jul 19, 2011 6:00am EDT
are going to have a big choice -- they picked this fight with the president for a reason, the debt limit is not going to be raised unless we do something on the deficit projections now and in to the future. but the problem with the house republicans is, they never answered affirmatively in a politically sa political politically saliable way what the a the answer should be. you have to have a plan that can pass both chambers and the president can sign. otherwise, you're talking past the other party. >> the question is, nicole, what is republican position right now? at the end of last week, we had republican leaders on in the house, guys i like very much personally. been a champion of paul ryan. back from the time i met him, in 1994. but we ask, what do you want? and their position was, it's not enough to close the tax loopholes. we've got to cut tax rates, income tax rates for individuals and corporations. that's not going to happen in 2011. they know it's not going to happen. i say, okay, let's say you got that done, would that be enough? then paul ryan said, no. we need a fundamental tr
MSNBC
Jul 19, 2011 8:00pm EDT
on the big things is something they choose to do. >> we emplore the other side to get serious. >> when is the house going to stop the charade? >> the gang of six is still trying to lead. >> it's a far cry from the paul ryan budget. >> we thought this was the gang of six, dead and buried. >> now the gang of six is a gang of seven. >> two parts, there's always a second act. >> gotten rave reviews from a lot of folks. frlgs colleagues really liked it. >> when does somebody have to say uncle? >> murdoch is also not taking the blame. >> insisting that he is not to blame. >> london calling. >> tried to pass the buck today. >> just doesn't really stack up. >> the 80-year-old also appeared confused. >> he said yes, i'm in charge of this company. >> somebody jumped over to, i believe, get to rupert murdoch. >> somebody with a pie, wendi murdoch leaped past her husband. >> she's feisty, i've met her. >> if i remember correctly, that looks like a spike. >> you can always say with glitter. >> as the deadline for raising the debt ceiling grows closer by the day, house republicans chose to spend thi
MSNBC
Jul 19, 2011 11:00pm EDT
in the house. >> failing on the big things is something they choose to do. >> we implore them. murdoch is also not taking the blame. >> insisting that he is not to blame. >> london calling. >> tried to pass the buck. >> he doesn't stack up. >> the 80-year-old appeared confused. >> here said yes, i'm in charge. >> someone tried to get i believe to rupert murdoch. >> a man with a shaving cream pie leaps past her husband and attempted to smash rupert murdoch in the face. >> that are looks like a spice. >> can you say it was glitter. >> as the deadline for raising the debt ceiling grows closer, house republicans chose to spend this day in debate and on a floor vote on a bill that the president has promised to veto if it somehow miraculously passed the senate, which it won't. republicans are not calling it the cut cap and balance bill because it drastically cuts spending and caps future spending and would guarantee future balanced guj et through a balanced amendment to the constitution. that would require a $2/3 majority. it was a debate over a bill that would never become law. you couldn't tell th
MSNBC
Jul 7, 2011 6:00am EDT
on cutting a big deal to take us through five to ten years, not just five or ten weeks. the problem, it seems to me, yesterday was a good example of it. you have questions tweeted to the president of the united states, questions delivered from the real world about housing problems, about i'm losing my house, my mortgage, what are we going to do. not policy questions from washington media members. the problem is that the president is dealing with a number of people who don't live in the real world. for example, eric cantor. no matter how many times he's been on and how many times we talk about rescinding the bush tax cuts, he calls it a tax increase. go to the grocery store and milk is on sale for $3.25. the next week it goes up to $3.75. it's not a hike in price, it's reverting back to the original price. they don't live in the real world. they just don't. >> he'll be on this morning so you can ask him again. >> we will ask him again. >> i would like to ask him what it is they offered yesterday that was different. the president talked about boehner's question being skewed. i put the question
MSNBC
Jul 6, 2011 5:00pm EDT
that it isn't that big of a deal have made themselves look pri instrahan gent. if we do go to doomsday on this, the hope is people that get blamed will be the republicans. >> that's option 2. that's default. i've given you two options. >> it's not default if we don't stop sending out the checks. if we keep sending out the checks, it's not default. we didn't default in '95. we just got near to it. >> does the president then say, okay, i'll agree to the republican plan? what's the third option besides default and defeat? how does he force his point of view, which is a reasonable balance, two or three to one, spending cuts to revenue hikes. >> i have no idea. i should say they're talking four or five to one. >> how do we get to there then? >> he can't. on his own we simply cannot. we live in a country, the constitution, the constitution has ultimate power. a lot of people think he could ignore them by asserting constitutional authority, but that is really dependent on the supreme court. >> am i right that it depends on one man, john boehner, speaker of the house, will have to deliver the votes he
MSNBC
Jul 7, 2011 8:00pm EDT
. >> the president goes big, surprising his base and republicans. >> the president is considering major changes in social security and medicare. >> he is willing to put sacred cows on the table. >> the american people didn't send us here to wage symbolic battles. >> the white house is winning the politics here. >> republicans and democrats are not sold yet. >> house democrats are not supporting any cuts in benefits for social security or medicare. >> tax hikes are off the table. >> the democrats in congress will not balance the budget on the backs of social security beneficiaries. >> we're not for raising taxes. >> but eventually, republicans are going to have to agree toing? . -- to something. >> i will not vote to increase the debt ceiling. >> it's insanity. >> i will reconvene congressional leaders here on sunday. >> meeting again on sunday. >> they are going to come back here sunday. >> and sunday is also the end of rupert murdoch's best-selling paper. >> the end of "news of the world." >> closing on sunday after 168 years. >> all of the things that people have talked about, this is an evil
MSNBC
Jul 25, 2011 7:00pm EDT
. they have basically yielded to republicans on a big conceptual point. linking, lifting the debt ceiling to spending cuts and -- >> two things republicans still want. a dollar for dollar cut in spending to match a debt ceiling increase and a trigger mechanism for a balanced budget amendment. holding out ideologically. speaker boehner when asked about the reid plan earlier. let's listen. >> i believe that the plan is full of gimmicks. we're not making any real changes in the spending structure of our government, and it doesn't deal with the biggest drivers of our deficit and our debt, and that would be entitlement programs. >> the republicans-- >> they're not touching that either. putting it to the side now. >> how can he say that, then? >> they have forgotten the number one rule of hostagetaking. when the other sides gives into your demands you let the hostage go. i don't think they're interested in doing that. at least 100 members on the house republican side want to blow up the economy because they think they will save the economy. >> and they're certainly willing to risk a worldwide e
MSNBC
Jul 28, 2011 12:00am EDT
and boehner plans, the big difference is the boehner plan forces us to raise the debç ceiling again and forces us to accept a $1.8 trillion or more in cuts from the so-called super commission, and if we don't do it, we go through another crises. he also demands a vote on the budget amendment. i think you could get something more rational to incentivize another plan down the road and have something with enough pressure coming from the markets, both parties could vote for. >> you make it sound like if reasonable people had a conversation about this there might actually be a solution, so thanks for being on and talking with us today. >> glad to be here. >> that was ezra klein, columnist for "the washington post" and bloomberg and also an msnbc policy analyst. thanks so much. >> thank you. >> now, ask yourself, would you -- no, not you, nancy. would you want john boehner's job right now, trying to placate a gaggle of angry tea partiers and stave off an economic calamity at the same time? i suspect there are moments even he doesn't want this job, but he's got it, and we need john boehner to get bet
MSNBC
Jul 6, 2011 8:00pm EDT
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MSNBC
Jul 12, 2011 8:00pm EDT
was in favor of doing the big deal, i was in favor of the $4 trillion in deficit reduction, but the republicans refused because they wanted to protect tax breaks for corporate jets and tax breaks for hedge fund operators and wall street billionaires and i bent over backwards. he says that all the time, i bent over backwards, but they wouldn't do it. they kept insisting on ending medicare as we know it and cutting social security. there is so much more to come in the debt ceiling drama, but as of tonight, the republicans are coming increasingly close to giving the president everything he really wants in this crisis and everything he really needs to be able to say in his reelection campaign next year. joining me now is former governor howard dean, former chair of the democratic national committee and a cnbc contributor. thanks for joining me tonight, governor. >> lawrence, thanks for having me on. >> you know, when this crisis started and we started hearing tea party people saying forget it, let the nation default, i really saw no root to how the president could even get to where he is tonight. i
MSNBC
Jul 14, 2011 12:00am EDT
and had to do them later. this is another leader who made a big show of imposing new rules for the house, that every time they'd propose spending they'd have to propose cutting to offset, then with the very first bill he introduces, he violates his own rule. this is the house speaker who does photo-ops like this one. >> when we say we're going to cut spending, this is what we're doing, heard saying to himself i can't believe i just said that. again, it's his own press conference. nobody said mr. speaker, can we read your lips on this? he brought it up, repeating the most famous republican screw up line in the last 40 years, unforced error, own goal again. here he is on fox news last night talking about the need to raise the debt ceiling. >> so what is next? what if you don't get a deal? >> i don't know. >> third in line to the presidency, speaker of the house. dunno. whether or not you agree with john boehner on policy, whether or not you think john boehner on policy is right or wrong, whether or not you want him to succeed politically or you don't want him to succeed politically, john b
MSNBC
Jul 20, 2011 11:00pm EDT
committed to a big deficit reduction package because he was always going to include something that was impossible for house republicans? >> but that was -- this is where i bang head on table, right? because i am -- i'm basically a right wing person and if i can get a deal where you preserve the infrastructure of tax rates, you give up something on deductions, schedules, and credits, and you get a democratic president to say i'll go first on medicare, i'll squeeze the providers, or i will make some changes on social security, it won't work when george w. bush leads, but when a democrat leads, okay, but you have to agree in this 1 in 6, 1 in 7 thing that you don't like. i say let's explore. and the president on health care and now again on this debt ceiling, as you say, he may have been very insincere and counting on republican intransigence to save him from his words, but the words were said, the door was there. this could be the moment where republicans got a lot out of a president who asked only a little from them, overconfident they'd say know. we now see he's rightly confid
MSNBC
Jul 29, 2011 8:00pm EDT
really big adult moment for the new republican majority and for people who've never been in politics, it's going to be one of those grows moments. it's going to be difficult. i'm certainly well aware of that, but we'll have to find a way to help educate members and help people understand the serious problem that would exist if we didn't do it." john boehner has worked harder and done more than any other republican in the house to, as he put it, educate members and help people understand the serious problem that would exist if we didn't do it. but john boehner's best has not been good enough. he has been elected to the speakership with the votes of economically uneducatable tea party republicans who have no ability to comprehend the seriousness and the necessity of raising the debt ceiling, and so tonight in what john boehner was hoping would be the tea party's "first really adult moment," john boehner has been forced to bring a bill to a vote that he knows is the work of the children in his party, the political peter pans who still, with the united states of america careening towards def
MSNBC
Jul 26, 2011 9:00pm EDT
through default, it won't be a big deal. now, john boehner doesn't believe that, mitch mcconnell doesn't believe that, but boehnor seems unable to move toward any kind of agreement, partly because he's worried about his own fate in this caucus or he's worried that if he puts together a deal that is supported by too many democrats and not enough republicans, he's also threatened. so i think it's that internal politics in the republican caucus that's blocking this. i think what might happen is that mitch mcconnell may decide to let harry reid pass his plan without threatening a filibuster. now, if he did that, the democrats could get it through with a majority. that's how most democracies do things, but not our senate, and that may set up grounds for a solution. that's about the only thing i could see right now that might begin to get us out of this or at least begin real negotiations again. >> so, speaking of that, of the idea there is, in fact, a majority rule, and that there's so much politics going on here, look, we saw this reuters poll indicating a majority of voters favor presiden
MSNBC
Jul 5, 2011 11:00pm EDT
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MSNBC
Jul 21, 2011 8:00pm EDT
at here, is there this broader pattern, if so, then this could become part of that. >> and big surprise, a very, very sharp contradiction in james murdoch's testimony plays out today. and the murdoch response was basically no response at all. >> right. you know, the interesting character to watch there is tom crone, the lawyer. he's made clear that he's not going to be the fall guy here. and if they -- if the murdochs and news corp. try to lay everything on him, because he was the chief lawyer for "news of the world," he's not going to sit idly by. so if the brits are looking for a john dean character in all this, i would think that tom crone is the guy to watch, and the statement today contradicting james murdoch's testimony about that email is the first sign that he may in fact be willing to go there. >> nbc news national investigative correspondent michael isikoff. thank you for joining me tonight, michael. >> thank you, lawrence. >>> coming up, virginia governor bob mcdonald flip flops on the debt ceiling, even though he never actually understood what the debt ceiling was in the fir
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Jul 18, 2011 4:00pm EDT
a big project ahead of deadline. >>> but first -- will the real conservatives please stand up? we're calling out republicans who have used the impending debt sdamp to push an ideological agenda. my cream is what makes stouffer's fettuccini alfredo so delicious. i think you'll find it's the vegetables. deliciously rich. flavorful! [ female announcer ] together at last. introducing new stouffer's farmers' harvest with sides of lightly sauteed farm-picked vegetables. find more ways to get to the table at letsfixdinner.com. whose long day starts with arthritis pain... and a choice. take tylenol arthritis and maybe up to six in a day... or choose aleve and two pills for a day free of pain. happy chopping. or choose aleve and two pills for a day free of pain. at liberty mutual, we know how much you count on your car and how much the people in your life count on you. that's why we offer accident forgiveness, man: good job. where your price won't increase due to your first accident. we also offer a hassle-free lifetime repair guarantee, where the repairs made on your car are guaranteed fo
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Jul 18, 2011 7:00pm EDT
to go with big spending cuts in revenues. makes no sense. >> i think the president, i said earlier, has leverage at this point because republicans depicted themselves as hostage-takers ready to blow things up and the public doesn't like this. they stood their ground. pat's right about that. the tea party people would be happy to see $100 billion cut out of the next budget which is in the bill that's up this week, even if that leads tos 700,000 lost jobs. happy top do safety inspections, environmental protection. this is what they want to do and stand by -- >> let's get back to reality. back to reality -- >> no. this is the reality, pat. >> david, what about -- >> david, hold on. let pat make his case. >> let me ask you this, chris. the republicans, say the mcconnell plan has a trillion or a trillion and a half in budget cuts in it. >> i don't think it does. >> in the house it passes. they send it to the president. he's going to veto it, shut down the government and puts if default? come on. >> the whole idea, mcconnell's, separate cuts from spending -- separate the ideological war faire
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